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Amicia de Meschines

Amicia de Meschines

Female Abt 1177 -

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  • Name Amicia de Meschines 
    Birth Abt 1177  Kevelioc, Merionethshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
    Death Chester, Cheshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I37006  Bob Juch's Tree
    Last Modified 31 Dec 2022 

    Father 3rd Earl of Chester Hugh de Kevelioc, 5th Earl of Chester,   b. 1147, Kevelioc, Monmouthshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 30 Jun 1181, Leek, Staffordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 34 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother Bertrade de Montfort,   b. 1155, Montfort-sur-Risle, Eure, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 12 Jul 1189, Evreux, Eure, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 34 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Marriage 1169  Montfort-sur-Risle, Eure, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Family ID F3450  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
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  • Notes 
    • The earl had another dau., whose legitimacy is questionable, namely, Amicia, * m. to Ralph de Mesnilwarin, justice of Chester, "a person," says Dugdale, "of very ancient family," from which union the Mainwarings, of Over Peover, in the co. Chester, derive. Dugdale considers Amicia to be a dau. of the earl by a former wife. But Sir Peter Leicester, in his Antiquities of Chester, totally denies her legitimacy. "I cannot but mislike," says he, "the boldness and ignorance of that herald who gave to Mainwaring (late of Peover), the elder, the quartering of the Earl of Chester's arms; for if he ought of right to quarter that coat, then must he be descended from a co-heir to the Earl of Chester; but he was not; for the co-heirs of Earl Hugh married four of the greatest peers in the kingdom."

      * Upon the question of this lady's legitimacy there was a long paper war between Sir Peter Leicester and Sir Thomas Mainwaring---and eventually the matter was referred to the judges, of whose decision Wood says, "a tan assize held at Chester, 1675, the controversy was decided by the justices itinerant, who, as I have heard, adjudged the right of the matter to Mainwaring." [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, pp. 365-6, Meschines, Earls of Chester]

  • Sources 
    1. [S228] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968, 95.

    2. [S222] Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, 125-28.