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Geoffrey I de Say

Geoffrey I de Say

Male Abt 1129 - 1214  (85 years)

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Geoffrey I de Say was born about 1129 in West Greenwich, Kent, England (son of William de Say and Beatrice de Mandeville); died on 19 May 1214.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  William de Say was born about 1106 in Saye, Normandy, France (son of Geoffrey de Say and Hawise de Clare); died in 1144.

    William married Beatrice de Mandeville about 1125. Beatrice (daughter of William de Mandeville and Margaret de Rie) was born in 1105 in Mandeville, Normandy, France; died on 19 Apr 1197 in Rickling, Essex, England; was buried in Walden Abbey, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Beatrice de Mandeville was born in 1105 in Mandeville, Normandy, France (daughter of William de Mandeville and Margaret de Rie); died on 19 Apr 1197 in Rickling, Essex, England; was buried in Walden Abbey, Hertfordshire, England.
    Children:
    1. 1. Geoffrey I de Say was born about 1129 in West Greenwich, Kent, England; died on 19 May 1214.
    2. William de Say was born about 1126 in Kimbolton, Norfolk, England; died before 1 Aug 1177.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Geoffrey de Say was born about 1088 in Sawbridgeworth, England (son of William de Say and Agnes de Grandmesnil).

    Geoffrey married Hawise de Clare. Hawise (daughter of Earl Hertford Gilbert FitzRichard de Clare and Adeliza (Alice) de Clermont) was born about 1089 in Clare, Suffolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Hawise de Clare was born about 1089 in Clare, Suffolk, England (daughter of Earl Hertford Gilbert FitzRichard de Clare and Adeliza (Alice) de Clermont).
    Children:
    1. 2. William de Say was born about 1106 in Saye, Normandy, France; died in 1144.

  3. 6.  William de Mandeville was born about 1058 in Great Waltham, Essex, England (son of Geoffrey de Mandeville and Adeliza de Balts); died about 1130 in England.

    Notes:

    Constable of the Tower of London

    William married Margaret de Rie about 1083 in England. Margaret (daughter of Eudo de Rie and Rohese FitzRichard de Clare) was born about 1076 in Rycott, Oxfordshire, England; died in England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Margaret de Rie was born about 1076 in Rycott, Oxfordshire, England (daughter of Eudo de Rie and Rohese FitzRichard de Clare); died in England.
    Children:
    1. Earl of Essex Geoffrey de Mandeville, 1st Earl of Essex was born in 1092 in Great Waltham, Essex, England; died on 14 Sep 1144 in Mildenhall, Suffolk, England; was buried in London, Greater London, England.
    2. 3. Beatrice de Mandeville was born in 1105 in Mandeville, Normandy, France; died on 19 Apr 1197 in Rickling, Essex, England; was buried in Walden Abbey, Hertfordshire, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  William de Say was born about 1067 in Sawbridgeworth, England.

    William married Agnes de Grandmesnil. Agnes was born about 1070 in Grentemesnil, Calvados, Normandy, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 9.  Agnes de Grandmesnil was born about 1070 in Grentemesnil, Calvados, Normandy, France.
    Children:
    1. 4. Geoffrey de Say was born about 1088 in Sawbridgeworth, England.

  3. 10.  Earl Hertford Gilbert FitzRichard de Clare was born before 1066 in Clare, Suffolk, England (son of Richard FitzGilbert de Clare and Rohese Giffard); died before 1117; was buried in 1117.

    Notes:

    Heir in England; granted Cardigan in Wales.

    Lord of Tunbridge, founded Priory of Clare, Lord of Cardigan

    Gilbert de Tonebruge, who resided at Tonebruge and inherited all his father's lands in England, joined in the rebellion of Robert de Mowbray, Earl of Northumberland, but observing the king (William Rufus) upon the point of falling into an ambuscade, he relented, sought pardon, and saved his royal master. We find him subsequently, however, again in rebellion in the same reign and fortifying and losing his castle at Tunbridge. Hem. In 1113, Adeliza, dau. of the Earl of Cleremont, and had issue, Richard, his successor, Gilbert, Walter, Hervey, and Baldwin. Gilbert de Tonebruge, who was a munificent benefactor to the church, was s. by his eldest son, Richard de Clare. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, London, 1883, p. 119, Clare, Lords of Clare, Earls of Hertford, Earls of Gloucester]

    Gilbert m. Adeliza, dau, of the Earl of Claremont, and was father of Richard de Clare, Earl of Hertford, and Gilbert de Clare, created Earl of Pembroke. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 230, Giffard, Earls of Buckingham]

    Gilbert married Adeliza (Alice) de Clermont about 1086. Adeliza (daughter of Count of Clermont Hugh de Clermont and Margaret de Roucy) was born about 1072 in Clermont, Beauvais, Oise, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 11.  Adeliza (Alice) de Clermont was born about 1072 in Clermont, Beauvais, Oise, France (daughter of Count of Clermont Hugh de Clermont and Margaret de Roucy).

    Notes:

    There seems to be a serious error in line 246b-24 of Ancestral Roots, which has this Adeliza marrying Robert de Condet d. 1141, after her marriage to Gilbert FitzRichard. This does not agree with any other lines, which have Robert de Condet's wife as Adeliza dau. of Ranulph le Meschin, Earl of Chester. The error in generation 24 is shown in the next generation of this line (246b-25) which has Adeliza dau. of Ranulph marrying first Richard FitzGilbert and then Robert de Condet. I believe this (generation 25) is correct.

    Children:
    1. Alice FitzGilbert de Clare was born on 1 Jan 1091 in Tonbridge, Kent, England; died in 1163 in Tendring, Essex, England; was buried in St Osyth, Essex, England.
    2. Lord of Tonbridge Lord of Cardigan Richard FitzGilbert de Clare was born in 1090 in Clare, Suffolk, England; died on 15 Apr 1136 in Slain by Welsh near Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales; was buried in Tonbridge, Kent, England.
    3. Lord of Bourne Baldwin FitzGilbert de Clare was born in 1088 in Clare, Suffolk, England; died in 1154 in Bourne, Lincolnshire, England.
    4. Hervey de Clare was born in 1087/1113; died in 1093/1193.
    5. Walter de Clare was born in 1087/1113; died in 1093/1193.
    6. Margaret de Clare was born in 1097 in Clare, Suffolk, England; died after 1185.
    7. Rohese FitzGilbert de Clare was born in 1100 in Tunbridge Castle, Kent, England; died in 1149 in Warwick Castle, Warwickshire, England.
    8. 1st Earl of Pembroke Gilbert "Strongbow" FitzGilbert de Clare was born on 21 Sep 1100 in Tunbridge, Kent, England; died on 6 Jan 1147 in England; was buried in Tintern Abbey, Chapel Hill, Monmouthsire, England.
    9. 5. Hawise de Clare was born about 1089 in Clare, Suffolk, England.

  5. 12.  Geoffrey de Mandeville was born about 1035 in Rycott, Oxfordshire, England; died after 1085 in Westminster Abbey, London, Middlesex, England.

    Notes:

    GEOFFREY DE MANDEVILLE
    The Conqueror and His Companions
    by J. R. Planché, Somerset Herald. London: Tinsley Brothers, 1874..

    This progenitor of one of the noblest and most powerful families on either side of the channel is simply alluded to by Wace as "li Sire de Magnevile" (l. 13,562).

    The French antiquaries, whilst agreeing as to the individual present at Hastings, differ respecting the locality whence he derived his name; Mons. Le Prévost considering it to be Magneville, near Valonges, whilee Mons. Delisle reports that it was Mandeville le Trévières, the Normanan estates of the Magnavilles, Mandevilles, or Mannevilles, as they were indifferently called, lying partly in the neighbourhood of Creulli, and the rest round Argentan, where, at a later period, they held the honor of Chamboi.

    No particular feat of arms is attributed to him by the Norman poet. He is only mentioned as one who rendered great aid in the decisive battle, and we find him in consequence rewarded with ample domains in England at the time of the great survey, amounting to one hundred and eighteen lordships in various counties, of which Walden, in Essex, was the chief seat of his descendants, who became the first Norman earls of that county in the reign of Stephen.

    He was also the first Constable of the Tower of London after the Conquest, an office enjoyed by his grandson of the same name, which I mention on account of the interesting fact that, in the charter of the Empress Matilda, which confers this amongst many other honors bestowed upon him, the custody of the Tower of London is granted to him and his heirs, with the little castle there (described, in another charter as under it) which belonged to Ravenger.

    This charter in which she creates Geoffrey de Mandeville (grandson of the companion of the Conqueror) Earl of Essex, is stated in a marginal note in Dugdale's Baronage to be "the most ancient creation charter which hath been ever known," and, I may add, for the numberless concessions and privileges recorded in it, the most remarkable.

    To return to the first Geoffrey, we learn from his charter of foundation of the Benedictine Monastery of Hurley, in Berkshire, that he was twice married. His first wife Athelaise (Adeliza) being the mother of his heir William de Mandeville, and other children not named; and his second wife, Leceline, by whom he appears to have had no issue.

    Mr. Stapleton, in his annotations to the Norman Rolls of the Exchequer, suggests that Adeliza, the first wife of Geoffrey, was sister to Anna, wife of Turstain Haldub, mother of Eudo al Chapel.

    Geoffrey married Adeliza de Balts about 1057 in England. Adeliza was born about 1040 in Rycott, Oxfordshire, England; died in Westminster Abbey, London, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 13.  Adeliza de Balts was born about 1040 in Rycott, Oxfordshire, England; died in Westminster Abbey, London, Middlesex, England.
    Children:
    1. 6. William de Mandeville was born about 1058 in Great Waltham, Essex, England; died about 1130 in England.
    2. Beatrice de Mandeville was born about 1061 in Rycott, Oxfordshire, England.

  7. 14.  Eudo de Rie was born in 1047 in Ryes near Bayeux, Calvados, Normandy, France (son of Baron de Rie Hubert de St Clair and Albreda De Preaux); died after 12 Jul 1080 in Oxfordshire, England.

    Eudo married Rohese FitzRichard de Clare about 1088. Rohese (daughter of Richard FitzGilbert de Clare and Rohese Giffard) was born about 1055 in Tunbridge, Kent, England; died in 1121 in England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 15.  Rohese FitzRichard de Clare was born about 1055 in Tunbridge, Kent, England (daughter of Richard FitzGilbert de Clare and Rohese Giffard); died in 1121 in England.
    Children:
    1. 7. Margaret de Rie was born about 1076 in Rycott, Oxfordshire, England; died in England.
    2. Hubert I de Rie was born about 1074 in Ryes near Bayeux, Calvados, Normandy, France; died before 1127 in Hockering, Norfolk, England.